In this episode, Elizabeth and Sheila get his take on if, when, and how to reveal one’s mental health story. In the spirit of Brad’s new book, Give First: The Power of Mentorship, Elizabeth shares some of the lessons she’s learned from her decade-long relationship with Brad as a mentor and investor. She asks him to open up about a cause that Sheila, Elizabeth, and Brad care deeply about – mental health.

Elizabeth and Sheila explore the tension between living fully in the present and planning for an uncertain future, particularly involving where we may live in the future and who we care about. Together, they ponder whether leaning into experiences that will inevitably end is brave, foolish, or simply human.

Elizabeth is currently in a relationship that can best be described as “ethical non-monogamy.” In this episode, she and Sheila dig into the ups and downs of open relationships.